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Twins Tamara Rabi And Adriana Scott With Their Mothers (March 9)

POSTED: 3:36 p.m. EST March 9, 2003

Interview: Twins Tamara Rabi and Adriana Scott and their mothers, Judy Rabi and Diane Scott, discuss the twins' separation at birth, subsequent adoptions and reunion Ms. TAMARA RABI (Twin): I was shocked. She had my face, and I'd never seen anybody with my face before.

Ms. ADRIANA SCOTT (Twin): I saw her and it was like exactly looking in the mirror.

GABE PRESSMAN, host:

The story of twin sisters separated as infants and reunited 20 years later captivated millions of New Yorkers this past week. Tamara Rabi and Adriana Scott, born in Mexico, were adopted by different families. Neither Tamara nor her adoptive mother, Judy Rabi, knew she had a twin sister. Adriana's mother, Diane Scott, knew but had no idea where that twin was. The details of how the young women and the mothers found each other after 20 years and the bonding among all four is like a work of fiction, but it really happened.

Announcer: From Studio 6B in Rockefeller Center, this is a presentation from News Channel 4, Gabe Pressman's NEWS FORUM. Now your host, senior correspondent Gabe Pressman.

PRESSMAN: And good morning. Tamara Rabi and Adriana Scott and Judy Rabi, Tamara's mother, and, Diana Scott, Adriana's mother, good morning to all of you and welcome.

Ms. JUDY RABI (Tamara's Mother): Good morning.

Ms. DIANE SCOTT (Adriana's Mother): Good morning, Gabe.

Ms. T. RABI: Hi.

PRESSMAN: About a week has passed since your story first appeared on the front page of Th--The New York Times. Have you been surprised at how this story has captured the imagination of so many people?

Ms. A. SCOTT: I've definitely been surprised. People are reacting, like--people who know us react like they never knew us. I have people at school who've seen me and who've known me coming up to me with all these questions.

PRESSMAN: Such as?

Ms. A. SCOTT: Such as: `Oh, what happened?' `Oh--oh, I'm so happy for you.' And I'm, like, `Thanks.' And one girl came up to me. She was, like, `I'm so--it's so nice to meet you.' And I'm, like, `You were in my class last semester. I--I--I know who you are.'

PRESSMAN: What about you, similar?

Ms. T. RABI: Not so much with school, because I haven't been around. But at my job--I've been there for two years with the same customers, and one woman...

PRESSMAN: What do you do?

Ms. T. RABI: I'm at customer service.

PRESSMAN: Uh-huh.

Ms. T. RABI: And one woman came up to me running. She's, like, `Oh, my God! You're one of the twins!' And I'm, like, `You've known me for two years. I'm always here.' And it's, like, they don--they never knew me. And they ask, like, `How was it? What are you doing? How does it feel?'--same questions.

PRESSMAN: How does it feel to be the mother of a celebrity daughter, Mrs. Scott?

Ms. D. SCOTT: They're two ...(unintelligible) we have. It's--I--they're the same. They're--they're--they've always been great, and they're still great now. And they're just enjoying every minute of it, and they're excited and--and bubbly.

PRESSMAN: What about the mothers, are they excited, too?

Ms. D. SCOTT: They're tired.

PRESSMAN: Yeah.

Ms. J. RABI: The mothers are exhausted.

Ms. D. SCOTT: We're tired. We're exhausted. But we're also exhilarated. We're exhilarated for our girls, and part of their experience has been our experience.

Ms. J. RABI: Right.

PRESSMAN: It's a big life change, isn't it?

Ms. D. SCOTT: It's a big life change.

Ms. J. RABI: Definitely.

Ms. D. SCOTT: But I think we're going to go back to our normal lives...

PRESSMAN: I'm sure you will.

Ms. D. SCOTT: ...and that'll be nice.

Ms. J. RABI: Right. Right.

Ms. D. SCOTT: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: Have you been surprised at how the story has captured the imagination of people in you--in your--you both work, both of you--on your job, say?

Ms. J. RABI: You know, Friday night before this story broke, I got a call from Elissa Gootman who wrote the story for The New York Times, and she said to me, `Judy, I think this story is going to be on the front page of the paper.' And I said to her, because I know she writes for the Metro section, I said, `The Metro section? The front page of the Metro section.' She said, `No. It's going to be on the front page.' And I kept on repeating the Metro section like a mantra and--until I understood. It was very exciting.

PRESSMAN: Yeah.

Ms. J. RABI: And--but it wasn't until I saw the article the next day that I realized that it was going to be a huge story, at least for this week.

PRESSMAN: But let's talk about what happened from the beginning. It began, as I understand it, with a friend of a friend of yours...

Ms. T. RABI: Right.

PRESSMAN: ...Tamara, you're 20th birthday party.

Ms. T. RABI: My roommates had called some friends over for a surprise party, and my friend, who I see every now and then, brought one of his friends. And his friend sat down across from me and saw me and said, `Oh, my God. You look just like this girl I know.' And I was, like, `Oh, ni--you know, that's goo--that's great.' And he was, like, `No, really.' He went on for--forever with it. And I was, like, `OK.' I started walking away when he kept bringing it up. And then he said, `Oh, well, her birthday was last week.' I said, `Well, mine was, too.' And he goes, `Oh, but she was born in Mexico.' And I said, `Well, me, too.' And he goes, `Oh, but she was adopted in Mexico.' And I go, `Well, so was I.' And so that's when I got really curious.

And the next day I was talking to my friend online, and he was talking to her online. And he was, like, `Do you want me to give her your screen name?' And I said, `OK.' And that's when we started talking.

PRESSMAN: This was the friend who came to the party who was a friend of a friend.

Ms. T. RABI: This is the friend that knew--that I knew.

PRESSMAN: The real friend.

Ms. T. RABI: The real friend. Yeah, the real friend.

PRESSMAN: And so you got online, and then what happened? Can you tell me?

Ms. A. SCOTT: I was talking to her. And I'm talking about this 'cause since I was freshman people from my high school go to Hofstra with her, and they come up to me. And one of my friends--he was, like, `You're adopted, right?' And I'm, like, `Yeah.' And he's, like, `Do you know if you have a sister anywhere?' I'm, like, `It's possible, but I don't know. Why do you want to know?' He's, like, `'Cause this girl in my school, she looks exactly like you.'

For two years this kid has been bothering me, telling me, `This girl, I saw her, we saw her. We're going to go find her for you.' But...

PRESSMAN: And you thought he was a nuisance.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah. He was a nuisance in high school. But, no, he's my friend. But, like--I'm, like, `All right. All right. That's good.'

PRESSMAN: So then what--what happens? You talked to each other online.

Ms. T. RABI: We talked to each other online.

PRESSMAN: And wha--what did you--what did you say? What kind of conversation?

Ms. T. RABI: The first thing we said to each other was, `So I hear you look like me. Everyone's been telling me that.'

PRESSMAN: And what did you answer?

Ms. A. SCOTT: `I had people tell me you look like me, too. What do you look like?'

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah. We compared, like, height and hair color and eye color.

PRESSMAN: And the height is--What?--5'...

Ms. T. RABI: Five three and three-quarters.

PRESSMAN: Five three and three-quarters.

Ms. T. RABI: Right. And...

PRESSMAN: In your stocking feet?

Ms. T. RABI: Huh?

PRESSMAN: In your stocking feet?

Ms. T. RABI: Right.

PRESSMAN: Not with high heels.

Ms. T. RABI: No.

PRESSMAN: Oh, OK.

Ms. T. RABI: And she e-mailed me a picture of herself from when she was in high school, and she looked just like me. My roommates were there. We were all shocked and...

PRESSMAN: They were all gathered around.

Ms. T. RABI: We were all gathered around the computer. Actually, I asked them to open it, to come in, 'cause I was scared. I was scared that it wouldn't be me after everything was built up, then I was even more scared that she would look like me. And she did.

PRESSMAN: And you? You were with your mother. You were home.

Ms. A. SCOTT: I was with my mom at home. And she was telling me--I didn't know what to ask. I was so, like, shocked. And I was not shocked. I was, like, nervous, 'cause, like, `Oh, well, she's probably not going to be my sister or whatever.'

Ms. J. RABI: Yeah.

Ms. A. SCOTT: And Mom's, like, `Ask her this. Ask her this. Ask her this.' And my mom knew that either her last name was Rabi or that her father was a Rabi.

PRESSMAN: R-A-B-I.

Ms. A. SCOTT: R-A-B-I. So my mom was, like, `Ask her her last name.' And I'm, like, `Why do you want to know?' And she was, like, `Just ask her her last name,' pushing it and pushing it. So I asked her her last name. And across the screen you saw `Rabi,' and my mom went, `That's your identical sister.' I'm, like, `What are you talking about?' So that's that. That's how I found out.

PRESSMAN: So what happened? Did you scream? Did you cry? Both?

Ms. T. RABI: Well, I knew from the minute I saw the picture, and so I was just shocked. But I knew that she didn't have the confirmation 'cause she hadn't really seen a picture of me. And so when we met, I went in knowing without a doubt that she was my twin sister. But I bet for her it must have been more...

Ms. A. SCOTT: I had no clue. Like, we compared our height, like, every little--birthmarks, beauty marks--everything we were comparing, and I didn't know for a fact, other than what my mom told me.

PRESSMAN: You were the one--you were the one who confirmed that absolutely.

Ms. D. SCOTT: Yes.

PRESSMAN: And what was your reaction?

Ms. D. SCOTT: Nervousness, excited, couldn't wait to see her to compare how the--the whole thing. And she was, like--she was--when I first told her, she was so stunned at first she really didn't say anything, and then she got very excited, ecstatic...

PRESSMAN: What about you?

Ms. D. SCOTT: ...and she was happy.

Ms. J. RABI: I--I was coming from the--from the other end of it. You know, Tamara was keeping me informed. And she told me that...

PRESSMAN: Right.

Ms. J. RABI: ...Adriana looked like her. She had gotten a picture from Adriana. And she told me that they were born on the same date, obviously they were both born in Mexico. But I was still somewhat skeptical until Adriana walked into the house. When Adriana walked into the house, I knew they were sisters.

PRESSMAN: Did you feel like crying, laughing or cheering?

Ms. J. RABI: You know, it--it was--it was complicated, a lot of feelings, you know? This--on one hand, it was a gift. And I know that--for Tamara to have a biological sister, to have someone who looked like her, I knew that was tremendously important to her. And it was to me, too, in one way, but I couldn't help it, Gabe. There was a part of me that felt a little bit of loss. I felt a little--a little frightened. And Tamara...

PRESSMAN: In other words...

Ms. J. RABI: And I shared that with Tamara. And Tamara said--she pointed her finger at me like this and she said, `Mom, I love you very, very much, and don't you ever forget it.' And after that, I felt fine. I felt like...

PRESSMAN: Afraid you were going to lose a daughter, sort of?

Ms. J. RABI: The other day, I e--instead of--I--I--instead of saying `daughter' I said `daughters.' So I think we've bonded--we--we've ha--we've spent so much time together this week that...

PRESSMAN: You've been on television shows, you've been interviewed by newspapers.

Ms. J. RABI: We've been on television, we've just been together, the four of us, so much, and we've really had an opportunity to get to know one another and...

PRESSMAN: Do you think maybe at a time of bad news of threats of war and war and the ec--economy being what it is that this is a story that people really are looking for?

Ms. J. RABI: Absolutely. Absolutely, because this is a--a joyous story of--of two sisters coming together and finding one another. What could be better than that?

PRESSMAN: Well, let's talk about some of the other aspects of this story after this.

(Announcements)

PRESSMAN: And we're back here with Tamara Rabi, Adriana Scott and their mothers discussing a story that captivated New York and still does.

Now it all began in Mexico. Is that correct?

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yes.

PRESSMAN: And when you were each adopted by different families, your adoptive mother, Tamara, didn't know about the existence of a twin.

Ms. T. RABI: No.

PRESSMAN: Mrs. Scott, you did know.

Ms. D. SCOTT: Yes.

PRESSMAN: But you weren't sure how to find that twin, or you didn't want to or?

Ms. D. SCOTT: We di--we weren't able to adopt her in Mexico, and...

PRESSMAN: That was frustrating.

Ms. D. SCOTT: Very frustrating. We were told for the two weeks that we--we weren't told about the twins until we arrived in Guadalajara, and then we're told--and were told that she wasn't available for adoption. And at the same time was also told that, `Well, maybe there's a chance.' And so--so for two weeks while we were there, we would--it--the story changed every day, and we didn't know that she would be coming--she became available till we were on our wa--heading back to New York.

PRESSMAN: And you never told Adriana.

Ms. D. SCOTT: We never told Adriana, because she would have been really upset by it, you know, f...

PRESSMAN: Frustrated ...(unintelligible).

Ms. D. SCOTT: ...frustrated, wanting a sister so badly the way she did. So we just felt it was better not to say anything.

PRESSMAN: Now it all began in Mexico, Tamara. Do you think you--I understand you have a brother, too. Do you think you'd like to track him down?

Ms. T. RABI: I was told that my birth mother had maybe a three- or four-year-old son when we were born.

PRESSMAN: Yeah.

Ms. T. RABI: And I've always wanted--well, I've been an only child until about a few months ago, and I've always wanted an older brother or a sister or somebody. So that's just why I've been interested in the older brother.

PRESSMAN: Think you might go on an expedition, a sisterly voyage to Mexico?

Ms. T. RABI: We're going to go to Mexico; definitely, one day. We're not too sure when.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah. Nope.

PRESSMAN: You're not quite sure where you were born in Mexico, are you?

Ms. T. RABI: Oh, yeah.

Ms. A. SCOTT: We...

PRESSMAN: You are?

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

Ms. A. SCOTT: We were born in Guadalajara.

PRESSMAN: What about the--the impact on your parents, Adriana, your--your mother, you, Tamara, and your mother, you worried about them kind of feeling they're losing contact...

Ms. A. SCOTT: Well...

PRESSMAN: ...as a mother/daughter relationship, you're all alone?

Ms. A. SCOTT: Well, my mother said that to me and I yelled at her for it, because I felt bad that she felt that way. But she doesn't feel that way anymore. I made it clear--I made it clear to her how I felt and that nothing between us was going to change, because she's my sister and she's my mother and it's a completely different relationship.

PRESSMAN: Do you feel the same way?

Ms. T. RABI: I'm not a lot worried--maybe a little bit just 'cause that's how she is, but I'm not going anywhere. I'm still going to be here.

PRESSMAN: You satisfied with that?

Ms. T. RABI: Yes.

Ms. J. RABI: Definitely.

Ms. D. SCOTT: My girl.

Ms. J. RABI: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: And you, too?

Ms. J. RABI: I am satisfied with that. I mean, you know, sometimes there's, like, a--a disconnect be--between your mind and your heart. And so I think at the beginning, I--in my mind, I knew this was a wonderful thing and I knew this was a good thing. But in my heart, I wasn't quite there. But now I'm there.

PRESSMAN: You're converting your heart.

Ms. J. RABI: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: What about--you're--you're majoring in psychology. Is that correct?

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yes.

Ms. T. RABI: I'm minoring in psychology.

PRESSMAN: You're minoring in it. And you're majoring.

Ms. A. SCOTT: I'm major.

PRESSMAN: Right. Well, there have been a lot of studies done, psychological studies, about twins. Do you think there's any validity in some of these studies? Some say that genetics, the genes that you both have, which are obvious in your physical appearance, are more important than the environment you grew up in. And then there are a few professors I read in an article in Psychology Today written in 1997 who dissent. They say that environment is more important.

Ms. T. RABI: I thought that some of the habits I had and some of my gestures and just some of the things I said were because of the way I was brought up, but then when I met her and she had the same gestures and the same words and the same attitude...

PRESSMAN: Yeah. What gestures? Show me a gesture.

Ms. T. RABI: Well, when we speak, sometimes we don't finish our sentence, so we ramble off...

Ms. A. SCOTT: And we say, `Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.'

Ms. T. RABI: Like, `Oh, it's nice' and `Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah,' and we don't continue.

Ms. A. SCOTT: And when we're telling stories and there's just a blank spot in the story, just, `Dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.' And...

PRESSMAN: Etc., etc.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: Like in "The King and I." That's...

Ms. T. RABI: And people say we eat alike. My friend saw us dancing and said we dance alike.

Ms. A. SCOTT: We talk alike. We have the same--the big thing is my dance team back at school--one of the girls heard her talk, and she was, like, `Oh, my gosh, she has the same voice as you!' because...

Ms. T. RABI: I'm very known for my voice sometimes 'cause it gets up there.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: You're nervous.

Ms. T. RABI: No. My voice is just higher pitched, and then I heard her talk, and I'm, like, `Oh, OK, it's not just me.'

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: That's when you get up to dance or when you get up to...

Ms. T. RABI: To do anything. Like, if I get excited, I get very squeaky.

Ms. A. SCOTT: When we get excited, our voices get very high, and people yell at us for that.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: I understand that--that you had a recurring dream, both of you...

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yes.

Ms. T. RABI: Yes.

PRESSMAN: ...the same dream.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yes.

PRESSMAN: And what was that dream?

Ms. T. RABI: It was--I know she got fevers every winter, but this happened to me, like, on a regular basis when we were little.

PRESSMAN: What was that?

Ms. T. RABI: It's not a visual dream, it's just a sound, but it's not, like, an instrument or somebody talking. It's just a sound that gets really, really loud and then it shrinks down to, like, a whisper and then it gets really loud again, and it goes back and forth, back and forth.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Oh, it's so scary.

Ms. T. RABI: But it's the scariest thing. And the other day she told me, like, last week, she's, like, `Have you ever had this dream?' And she told it to me, and I asked my mom--I'm, like, `She had the same dream as me?'

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: It's true?

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah, it is. We also had a dream--I once had a dream that the mice were taking over the world when I was little.

PRESSMAN: The what?

Ms. A. SCOTT: The mice were taking over the world, a nightmare. And I remember waking up crying, wanting my mother. `The mice are taking over the world.' And I asked her about it, and she had a similar dream, because of "The Nutcracker." And, like, one scene in "The Nutcracker" the mice are...

Ms. T. RABI: The mice are everywhere.

PRESSMAN: You d--you danced in "The Nutcracker"?

Ms. A. SCOTT: No. I went to l--I went to see it every winter with my aunt until a couple of years ago.

PRESSMAN: I see. And--so somehow that communicated that--well...

Ms. A. SCOTT: ...(Unintelligible).

PRESSMAN: ...you don't know whether that was the cause of it.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: But you had the same dream.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: You--you didn't have an aunt who was a devotee of "The Nutcracker."

Ms. T. RABI: No.

PRESSMAN: So you're very happy.

Ms. T. RABI: Right.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yes.

PRESSMAN: Do you think there may come a time when, like all sisters, you'll have a fight?

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yes.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah. 'Cause, like--I mean, regardless of sisters, like, we're friends, and I fight with my friends. It's not like our relationships are perfect; people fight.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah.

Ms. T. RABI: But I also think we manage to stand each other better, so it may avoid some of the little fights. Just like I really don't know yet, because we haven't gotten there yet. But I feel like we've know--what I know about is me; and, therefore, I'm not going to do it to someone else. So for as alike as we seem to be, maybe she likes the same things.

PRESSMAN: And talking psychology, have you thought about the psychological impact of this discovery on--on both of you?

Ms. A. SCOTT: I have. 'Cause like you said with the whole--like, the big thing is nature-nurture. Because my school is, like, big for psychology. And I remember reading in a textbook...

PRESSMAN: This is Adelphi.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Adelphi.

PRESSMAN: And you're at Hofstra.

Ms. T. RABI: Right.

PRESSMAN: Right.

Ms. A. SCOTT: I remember reading a textbook and they used an example of two brothers who were separated at birth and they both ended up being firefighters. And I remember thinking, `Oh, that's nice.' But then we have the same interests, and...

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

Ms. A. SCOTT: ...it's amazing, I think.

PRESSMAN: Amazing.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: Why do you think your story made the front page of The New York Times, Tamara?

Ms. T. RABI: I think that it's just a happy story and with all th--everything that's bad going on right now. And it's all over the front page of war and terrorists, that it gave pe--for a Monday morning--nobody likes Mondays--and to see a happy article on the front page, I feel, like, started the week off kind of differently, not all about worrying about war, I mean, even though we still are, but just, well, there's still something good still going on.

PRESSMAN: What about the war? Are you worried about it?

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

Ms. A. SCOTT: I'm worried about--when everything happened with September 11th, it really bothered me. Like, it--just because we were, like, right here--it was so close, and, like, my school was, like, panicking, like, all the schools were closing, and I'm, like, `Oh, my God.' I didn't like it at all.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah. Yeah.

Ms. A. SCOTT: It scared me.

PRESSMAN: And--and you, too?

Ms. T. RABI: Very, yeah. Just--just like everybody, I feel.

PRESSMAN: Let's come back and talk about the future, what your hopes are for that, after this.

(Announcements)

PRESSMAN: And we're back here with Tamara and Adriana and their mothers.

So what about the future? What--what's going to happen in your life, do you hope?

Ms. T. RABI: Right now, we're friends, and then I feel like we'll turn to best friends and then we'll turn to sisters.

PRESSMAN: What about a career?

Ms. T. RABI: I...

PRESSMAN: Looking forward to something?

Ms. T. RABI: I don't know what I want to do.

Ms. A. SCOTT: I don't know either.

Ms. T. RABI: Honestly, I don't know.

PRESSMAN: And you, too.

Ms. A. SCOTT: I have no clue. I--I don't know.

Ms. T. RABI: Just try and get through school right now.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah, finish school and then we'll see.

Ms. T. RABI: I will look.

PRESSMAN: Would you like to be a psychologist that deals with the twin syndrome?

Ms. A. SCOTT: I was actually thinking of that, doing, like--or adoption even. I was thinking of looking into that. That would be interesting.

PRESSMAN: Children?

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: Yeah. What do you look for for your child's future, Mrs. Scott?

Ms. D. SCOTT: Oh, I--I just hope that this--the two of them work it out together and--and become very, very close, and that she's successful, but happy. You know, that's the main thing, that she's happy.

PRESSMAN: Are you glad that there is a sibling?

Ms. D. SCOTT: Yes. Very much so. I'm so excited over the two of them being together, so excited that they found what I never thought she would.

PRESSMAN: Mrs. Rabi, what--what do you look forward to?

Ms. J. RABI: Well, these are two bright and beautiful girls. Tamara is somewhat unsure of what she wants to do right now. But I think that no matter what they do that they're going to be really--Tamara, for example, is a really hard worker. She always has had jobs while she was at school. And she puts her all into everything she does, so I know whatever she does she's going to be successful at it.

PRESSMAN: What do you do now, Tamara?

Ms. T. RABI: I go to school.

PRESSMAN: Right.

Ms. T. RABI: And we just got this job at the entertainment company.

PRESSMAN: Yeah. You--you're--it's a dancing job.

Ms. T. RABI: Right. It's a...

PRESSMAN: You got the--got the job.

Ms. T. RABI: That's right.

PRESSMAN: Right.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: And it's called Entertainment Tonite!, not to be confused with anything else.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: And what do you do in this job? The two of you will both dance?

Ms. T. RABI: Yes. We dance and there's other dancers, but it's, like, to get the energy up, the crowd up and g...

PRESSMAN: Crowd up at what? The wh...

Ms. T. RABI: Get them dancing, get them into the party and get them...

Ms. A. SCOTT: For bar--bar mitzvahs, at, like, sweet 16's.

PRESSMAN: Weddings, bar mitzvahs?

Ms. T. RABI: Nothing's been mentioned about weddings.

Ms. A. SCOTT: But like bar mitzvahs, the big things.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: Really?

Ms. T. RABI: Yes.

PRESSMAN: And so you're supposed to get everybody to get going, dance.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah. Yeah.

Ms. A. SCOTT: To have fun.

PRESSMAN: And a lot of those 13-year-old kids are shy.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

Ms. A. SCOTT: With boys on one side and girls on the other...

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

Ms. A. SCOTT: ...and no one can dance.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah. Yeah. Have fun.

PRESSMAN: Tamara, did you have a bas mitzvah for yourself?

Ms. T. RABI: I did. I had a bas mitzvah, and we didn't have a deejay company. We had a band, which was fun, but I can understand why people have dancers to get...

PRESSMAN: One sad note is that you both lost your fathers fairly recently. Is that correct? Your adoptive fathers.

Ms. T. RABI: I lost my father this past November.

Ms. A. SCOTT: I lost mine eight years ago this past week.

PRESSMAN: I see. So in that sense, too, you--you've bonded.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

Ms. A. SCOTT: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: Bonded in mourning...

Ms. R. RABI: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: ...for--some of them didn't get to see this happen.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

Ms. J. RABI: I know one of the things that Tamara said to me was that Adriana helped her get through this...

Ms. T. RABI: She...

Ms. J. RABI: ...a little bit because she shared with Tamara some of her own--some of the feelings that she had had when her dad died, which was helpful to Tamara.

PRESSMAN: Is there a lesson here in all of this, this story?

Ms. T. RABI: I believe in anything. I think anything...

Ms. A. SCOTT: Anything's possible.

Ms. T. RABI: ...is possible, anything in the whole wide world.

PRESSMAN: And you, too?

Ms. A. SCOTT: Anything in the whole wide world.

PRESSMAN: I guess--I guess we have reached agreement on that. Normally there are politicians on this show that--who are dodging, but you guys all agree.

Ms. T. RABI: Yeah.

PRESSMAN: Thank you very much, Tamara Rabi and Adriana Scott, for joining us this morning. Many thanks also to the mothers here, Judy Rabi, Diane Scott.

Good day. I'm Gabe Pressman.

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